Bush wore a device during debate according to NASA
Posted On Sunday, November 25, 2007 at at 4:45 PM by Eddie
This is old news isn't it? I'm surprised it's not circulating. I don't hate Bush, it's just I found this pretty interesting.
Original Article By Kevin Berger
Oct 29, 2004 | George W. Bush tried to laugh off the bulge. "I don't know what that is," he said on "Good Morning America" on Wednesday, referring to the infamous protrusion beneath his jacket during the presidential debates. "I'm embarrassed to say it's a poorly tailored shirt."
Dr. Robert M. Nelson, however, was not laughing. He knew the president was not telling the truth. And Nelson is neither conspiracy theorist nor midnight blogger. He's a senior research scientist for NASA and for Caltech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and an international authority on image analysis. Currently he's engrossed in analyzing digital photos of Saturn's moon Titan, determining its shape, whether it contains craters or canyons.
For the past week, while at home, using his own computers, and off the clock at Caltech and NASA, Nelson has been analyzing images of the president's back during the debates. A professional physicist and photo analyst for more than 30 years, he speaks earnestly and thoughtfully about his subject. "I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate," he says. "This is not about a bad suit. And there's no way the bulge can be described as a wrinkled shirt."
Nelson and a scientific colleague produced the photos from a videotape, recorded by the colleague, who has chosen to remain anonymous, of the first debate. The images provide the most vivid details yet of the bulge beneath the president's suit. Amateurs have certainly had their turn at examining the bulge, but no professional with a résumé as impressive as Nelson's has ventured into public with an informed opinion. In fact, no one to date has enhanced photos of Bush's jacket to this degree of precision, and revealed what appears to be some kind of mechanical device with a wire snaking up the president's shoulder toward his neck and down his back to his waist.
Nelson stresses that he's not certain what lies beneath the president's jacket. He offers, though, "that it could be some type of electronic device -- it's consistent with the appearance of an electronic device worn in that manner." The image of lines coursing up and down the president's back, Nelson adds, is "consistent with a wire or a tube."
Nelson used the computer software program Photoshop to enhance the texture in Bush's jacket. The process in no way alters the image but sharpens its edges and accents the creases and wrinkles. You've seen the process performed a hundred times on "CSI": pixelated images are magnified to reveal a clear definition of their shape.
Bruce Hapke, professor emeritus of planetary science in the department of geology and planetary science at the University of Pittsburgh, reviewed the Bush images employed by Nelson, whom he calls "a very highly respected scientist in his field." Hapke says Nelson's process of analyzing the images are the "exact same methods we use to analyze images taken by spacecraft of planetary surfaces. It does not introduce any artifacts into the picture in any way."
How can Nelson be certain there's some kind of mechanical device beneath Bush's jacket? It's all about light and shadows, he says. The angles at which the light in the studio hit Bush's jacket expose contours that fit no one's picture of human anatomy and wrinkled shirts. And Nelson compared the images to anatomy texts. He also experimented with wrinkling shirts in various configurations, wore them under his jacket under his bathroom light, and couldn't produce anything close to the Bush bulge.
In the enhanced photo of the first debate, Nelson says, look at the horizontal white line in middle of the president's back. You'll see a shadow. "That's telling me there's definitely a bulge," he says. "In fact, it's how we measure the depths of the craters on the moon or on Mars. We look at the angle of the light and the length of shadow they leave. In this case, that's clearly a crater that's under the horizontal line -- it's clearly a rim of a bulge protruding upward, one due to forces pushing it up from beneath."
Hapke, too, agrees that the bulge is neither anatomy nor a wrinkled shirt. "I would think it's very hard to avoid the conclusion that there's something underneath his jacket," he says. "It would certainly be consistent with some kind of radio receiver and a wire."
Nelson admits that he's a Democrat and plans to vote for John Kerry. But he takes umbrage at being accused of partisanship. "Everyone wants to think my colleague and I are just a bunch of dope-crazed ravaged Democrats who are looking to insult the president at the last minute," he says. "And that's not what this is about. This is scientific analysis. If the bulge were on Bill Clinton's back and he was lying about it, I'd have to say the same thing."
"Look, he says, "I'm putting myself at risk for exposing this. But this is too important. It's not about my reputation. If they force me into an early retirement, it'll be worth it if the public knows about this. It's outrageous statements that I read that the president is wearing nothing under there. There's clearly something there."
yep definitely something there
I'm sorry, where did it say that NASA said this?
It's a Kevlar vest of course. You are seeing the folds between the panels.
would be nice to get some hi-res photos of the event linked here.
I KNEW he was a cyborg.
Its a known FACT that scientists in the public sector are non-too-bright.
Here is a statement from a scientist that is actually found a job in the private sector.
Im not nasa, and I havent been studying ridges for a century.....but my god...
IF YOU CANT TELL THEY ARE SUSPENDERS...then wow....we really need education reform...
Get your presidential suspender here
http://www.choosyshopper.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=110
There, sorry, wrong link...
Here you go all..
http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50221361/Suspenders.jpg
http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50221361/Suspenders.jpg
Huh, it keeps cutting off my link...
http://www.global-b2b-network.com/
direct/dbimage/50221361/
Suspenders.jpg
Bra strap.
the pics sure look suspicious, but how could this be useful to him without an earpiece? i mean, the theory is that he's no good at improvisational public speaking, and so he's getting coached during the debate. but he'd need to hear the coach's voice no? i guess it might tap out morse code on his shoulder or something but i highly highly doubt it.
and how about possible feedback from a device like that?
- Exploited 9/11 to remove major provisions of the Bill of Rights? Check.
- Funneled 100's of Billions of tax payer's dollars to oil and defense special interests? Check.
- Mired in incompetence, cronyism, and corruption? check.
- Lied to the American people about Iraq then totally botched the war? Check.
- Lost an entire city and didn't even care? doin' a check of a job.
- Worst US President ever? Check.
- Cheated during the debates? Doubtful.
It's definitely NOT suspenders as our incompetent multi-poster supposes. But, he would have done better if he was wired. No one sucks that bad at public speaking WITH help. Right?
Anyone who thinks those who question authority are traitors, don't deserve democracy.
It could just be the reciever for a small device in his ear, say the size of a hearing aid.
I love the note in green "this could be done by anyone with a camera and Photoshop". Yeah.. And I could photoshop my girlfriend's head on to Kiera Knightley's body. Doesn't make it any more valid.
Yes, this was all over the blogosphere 4 years ago. I'll summarize what I feel became most decent folks' conclusions. Yes, people decided, "He's probably wearing something under his jacket." No, it isn't some sort of "cheating device." No, it's not worth getting hung up about. The President of the United States is wearing something they don't want to talk about underneath his jacket at a semi-public debate. It really isn't THAT surprising when you look at it.
And this is coming from a man who disagrees with most things this President has done while in office.
It's an IV bag. Bush returning to his old habit of getting drunk need a 'boost' to keep him awake during the debate.
Or maybe a downer to get him down from his cocaine high.
Suspenders don't have a base up to your shoulders :) And they surely don't have a thin wire-shaped bottom end that ends up in your left side!
GWB, someones puppet from the start.
It is an advanced anti-ballistic vest you goofballs (to stop bullets). DOH.
And to the morons who say Bush is the worst president in history.
It is clear you have NOT studied history. What idiots. Please, for the sake of any children who might be around, shut up until you do some reading! Have you ever studied a list of all the crimes and criminals done , in and around the Clinton's? Did you ever see the pic of Bill on the WhiteHouse lawn with an international drug cartel leader? Have you looked at a list of the scum he pardoned. Have you read all the ways he merchandised the his office breaking the law over and over? And Bill is just recent history. Seriously pick up a book..it won't hurt.
I agree with Randall - without an earpiece it doesn't mean anything.
>You've seen the process performed a hundred times on "CSI": pixelated images are magnified to reveal a clear definition of their shape.<
ummm, this is a really dumb comparison. those idiotic faux enhancements on CSI are galling. that's like saying wiggling your hands over the keyboard like on that retarded show numb3rs proves that pulled-from-ass analyses like those are plausible. but still, yeah, it was a bulge, the wire could have been concealed with latex, the earpiece could have been tiny. even without this evidence, i'd assume if that creepy retard said anything remotely intelligible there had to be someone else pulling the strings.
. . . Microphone?
to #13
Your country? Sounds kind of selfish to me. Also, since when did you become "the decider?"
Thank you Mitch. If people think George Bush is bad, how about checking out the ex-president that appears on the twenty dollar bill...
- Wow never thought I would see the day that someone who claimed to be in image analysis would use over sharpening to show edges.
Over sharpening an image usually causes a white trace edge and a black contrast edge. (Which you can clearly see in all images with this article) It rarely enhances an image. You would look at the different spectrum's of light also you would do a bump reference map. If there was a protrusion on one side check to see if it is mirrored on the other side. Which if you had bothered to look at other images available you could have clearly seen the same bump on the other side.
I would probably guess that it is some kind of kevlar vest..
http://bulletproofme.com/ProMAX-Concealable-PHOTOS.htm
Nice try...
Call me crazy but I highly doubt anything will ever be done about it, nor will 90% of the voting population even hear about it.
It is kind of funny though, because I'm not American so Dubya never fails to entertain.
I hate bush .. but thats his shoulder blade.. same thing happens to some of my suits
It's a oneway audio com device,
build by lockheed martin for the intelligence community.
It uses burst data transmissions, within in extreemly narrow band.
it was to keep him on track and to help him answer some question.
it's not so special as you guy's try to make it.
We need to keep W on track sometimes. that's all.
I cannot believe people actually think that bulge is from a pair of suspenders. Oh wait - we put this guy in office twice so I guess I have to believe we're capable of all kinds of ignorance.
Wouldn't it seem more likely (after the obvious receiver) that the bulge is from a transmitter? A sat-tracker to keep up with the prez?
...I still think it's part reciever and should not have been allowed in a debate in this country. pfff.
Liars suck and make it hard to teach 'truth' to your children.
according to NASA???
no.
according to a guy who worked for NASA and did some homebrew stuff off the clock. Who is also a Democrat and stated as such.
Sheesh - youd think it was 1960.
One question I have is...
What is at the top and bottom of the "wire or tubing"?
LoL. Yeah.
Bush and his boys were running low and funds and decided to cheat during a televised debate so they picked up a transmitter on Ebay.
Whoever said 1960 is right. Err maybe like 1980. Things like that are so small now the entire transmitter can fit entirely in the ear.
how can anyone say that it doesn't matter if he cheated (used help). As the president of the US you are responsible for ~450 Million US residents. Do you want to trust that many lives to someone who lies to the people he has sworn to protect, Cheats in a presidential election, Cheats during the debate, Stages Terrorist attacks to start a war, Uses that war to profit for himself his friends and his father, Uses OUR tax money to fund HIS war.
Every body who is going to call me a traitor GO KILL YOURSELF because you obviously don't understand politics and just regurgitate the mindless bullshit that is presented to you by our tyrant leader.
Yup This is fake
If he was wearing a Kevlar vest then why not simply say that instead of remarking that it was either a poorly tailored shirt, or denying to know what it was?
Why is it so wrong to ask questions?
@ #23, why do you says someones puppet. We all know whos puppet he is...
i bet it was a device that shocks him every time he says something stupid. a little shock treatment always works.
"i bet it was a device that shocks him every time he says something stupid. a little shock treatment always works."
Shit - he must have live current flowing through him every time he opens his mouth.
He's a puppet. It's a puppet regime. yay!!! yay!!!
I think it's a portable defibrillator.
http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/35839.php
Suspenders split in a Y shape just like the picture the Franctic Trailer trashed republican calling everyone a traitor poasted. He killed his own response.
I agree with the above comments.
HE MUST BE A CYBORG. IT´S HIS EXTRA BATTERIES. NEEDS THEM FOR THE EXTRA THINKING DEBATES MAY CAUSE. THEY CONFUSEEE HIM
JJAJAJAJA
This is more than a little funny. Liberals can't figure out who destroyed the world trade center, but they are absolutely sure what is under Bush's coat. Too funny!
If it were a Kevlar vest, then why would the "president" say "poor tailoring"?
Oh yeah, and Hoffa is buried under the washington monument, not the white house *g*
WATCH ZEITGEIST PEOPLE!! it will open your eyes!!!
Point of reference..During the 90's Sharper Image sold a "Jogging Speaker" that worked off the principle of Low Frequency Vibrations at a high rate...Something like that, the user would ware the "speaker" around the neck and over the shoulder like a shawl...Sound was transmitted not directly to the ears using sound waves thru the air, but rather by creating vibrations thru out the upper skeletal system.
That's also how Bush passed his exams at Harvard Business School..somebody had to be feeding him the answers there also, since he was too stupid to be admitted to The University of Texas School of Law.
To WEPrechaun and others:
If it was some sort of ballistic vest (and that's the probable case) he most likely wouldn't say that for two reasons:
1. It would make him look like a bit of a sissy; and more importantly:
2. The secret service does not and will not comment on methods of protection. Period.
Most likely it was an easy lie to keep the information about him wearing a vest from going public. Even commenting on something that simple could make it harder to protect him in the future. Say it was an advanced super-slim vest, or something that uses newer materials, or even if it was just a regular vest, it's not information the USSS wants out there. After all if they put him in a vest whenever he is out in public, and it's not common knowledge, a close range shooter would likely aim for body mass, which would then most likely be non-lethal.
I'm not defending him, or commenting on the actual content of the image. Although personally I suspect it was either a 'vest' of some sort or a 'wardrobe malfunction.' After all as someone said, if they wanted to transmit to him, there are much better solutions available than something that bulky.
And hell, I hate the man and the job he has done.
Just my two cents.
It never fails to make me laugh. Person A is an expert in this area, therefore he must be an expert in all areas. This article is poorly written and poorly backed by any evidence.
In regard to an ear-piece, I don't care or think it's relevant regardless of my position on Bush.
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